You're welcome, Happy and Alive :) Wish you all the best with whatever you chose. Remember, it has to be your choice and not the choice of others. Don't forget to listen to your gut instincts. Peace! <3
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mafia-like chasing
by happy-n-alive inso, i have missed 4 sunday meetings now for different reasons mainly fatigue cause i'm still in school and i'm up late almost everynight.
anyways..the lady i study with decides to harass the house with relentless phone calls disturbing my mum (who doesnt like jws) for the last 3 days.
she finally got through to me today because she called super early (before 7).
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mafia-like chasing
by happy-n-alive inso, i have missed 4 sunday meetings now for different reasons mainly fatigue cause i'm still in school and i'm up late almost everynight.
anyways..the lady i study with decides to harass the house with relentless phone calls disturbing my mum (who doesnt like jws) for the last 3 days.
she finally got through to me today because she called super early (before 7).
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Oh yeah, they do that at mid week meetings - openly discuss their bible studies with the congregation in the hopes it will encourage others. In my opinion, all it is, is a puffed up way they blow their horn and make others feel inferior. I totally get the flood of phone calls. They were affraid to lose a bible study. If you're having doubts or concerns while you're studying with them, don't follow through and get baptized. You'll regret it and be royally screwed. They'll own you then. All the concern they have for you now while your studying will drop off the minute you're baptized and then they'll start attacking you and making your life a living hell. The only thing that matters is what you believe in your heart. If you love the bible, God, and do your best to be good to others - why do you need to be affiliated with a religion that claims to do all that on the outside, but on the inside is nothing but a cess pool of lies, gossip and back stabbing? Don't go there man... By the sounds of it they've already tried conditioning you to submit to their guilt trip tactics. Beleive what you want to believe. Don't let them tell you their interpretations. They will screw you up real bad. Good luck with it though. I don't know your circumstances of what you want from them, but if it's what you want, go for it and give it your best shot. Go to the meetings if they make you feel better, but don't let them trap you. Regardless of whatever else they say, it comes down to your personal relationship with Jehovah. He sees everything and understands why people do what they do. I don't believe you need a label with a religion to have a connection with your maker. That's just me though. I'll never forget the hell they put me through, and if wasn't from one congregation either but quite a few. They are just hungry for new numbers and then when you walk away from it they like to click their tongues and say 'tut tut, so many are leaving the faith' but they never stop to ask themselves why?
Mafia-like chasing.... you got that right - and you haven't done anything wrong! Wait until you do something wrong. You'll really know the meaning of the Mafia-like chasing... It's psycho!
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There Are Many New Ones Here. Has JWN Helped You?
by minimus ini think simon green's site has helped more people than he ever would have imagined!
do you agree??
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Well said, Sophie G! :)
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Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower SUICIDE . How many JW suicides can you recall?
by Anti-Cult inhow many jw suicides can you recall?.
is it more common than the rest of society?.
i personally know of 5.
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I knew a few and have also contemplated ending my own life. I can understand why people in the org do it. It's an escape from all the crap and guilt you get put through. It's the worst feeling when the only thing you've ever known has been raised as a JW and conditioned from birth and then if you screw up or realise it's not for you, you're stuck for good. If you leave, you lose everything and everyone you've ever known. Thrown to the wolves is not a nice feeling. Being beat up by those in the congregation you trusted and stabbed in the back really hurts. Gossip, mean heartedness and spiteful sarcastic comments all hurt and drove me so low that I sought professional help for depression. Surprise! They gave me drugs which depressed me more because the congregation didn't understand how I was feeling. I needed spiritual help and had a CO and PO give me s 'sheparding call' that was nothing but the final nail in my coffin. They refused to give me spiro help when I asked for someone to study some basic truths with me to rekindle my love - nope - nada - nothing! I was told I should read my bible and go preaching. Two things I coldn't do. I couldn't even pray. I was low - real low. They didn't care. I felt that death was the only place I'd find peace. I got in my car and turned on the engine. Sat there in the garage and then one thought went through my head that made me press the remote control button for the garage door:- 'Jehovah won't forgive you if you do this'. Boy did I cry and cry and cry. I felt like I was living in limbo. The pain was unbearable. I threw the medication out. I believed it has started me on this dark path. I sought cognitive councelling to help unbrainwash me. It worked. I came to realise that how the org treated me was not right. I started to realise there were others like me who has similar experiences of being put down and treated unjustly. There are so many of them out there and the comforting to know is that there are so many JWs who think they are going to make it, but because they caused other members to leave will have blood on their hands. Even though I am not a practicing witness and don't go to meetings, I still believe Jehovah is the only true God and he will give me justice. I don't have to answer to imperfect men and refuse to do so. If I'm such a wicked, bad person in my heart, then Jehovah can see that and either way at Armageddon all suffering will end. I'm happy now I have come to realise I don't have to be imprisioned by the guilt mind games they hand out to control you. I've discovered I do have a choice. I'm still a good person even though I don't go to meetings. For the first time in my life, I have started to love myself. Only ever knew what that was like after I left. At 34, I'm starting to live!
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There Are Many New Ones Here. Has JWN Helped You?
by minimus ini think simon green's site has helped more people than he ever would have imagined!
do you agree??
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Hi found sheep, and yes, this is new to me. Walking away was hard, but felt no one cared to help me even when I asked for help. They just snuffed out my flame. I highly doubt I'll ever go back unless their attitudes change toward people and stop branding them things that are not nice.
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Older man marries younger woman, yes; younger man marries older woman?
by dgp ini understand that marriages between an older man and a much younger woman are a fact of jw life.
the reasons i have seen include the lack of an available prospect, of the fact that the older man has some power in the congregation and therefore marrying him is something like an advantage.
i wonder what the advantage can be, and i would appreciate any light on this (new or old).. but, how often does a younger man marry an older woman?
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I think it comes down to sex. It's such a taboo subject that is not talked about among the members - god forbid if you do! It's got to be a fetish, the age old younger man/woman seek a more experienced partner. Who knows? When you're given the ultimatum to 'marry only in the lord' - there is a limited pond to chose from. It's not really fair to have to chose a mate based on their religion. Especially when you can't try before you buy. You test drive a car you might plan to have for 5-10-20 years...why wouldn't you do the same to a prospective mate you'll spend the rest of your life with. No wonder the divorce rate among JW's is the same as any nation's average.
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Femine supplies advice help needed
by jws ini'm divorced and i have a daughter who is nearly 11. last year she watched a video in school covering upcoming body changes (which she already knew about).
but one suggestion they gave that i didn't think of was to go get femine supplies and be prepared for when the time comes.
i like being prepared ahead of time for emergencies.
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You know what? I know it's uncomfortable to do, but ask her what she thinks and go to the supermarket with her. Be open about it and she will tell you anything. Girls are funny creatures and if you get something her mum doesn't get then it could spark a war. Talk to your daughter. She probably knows more about it than you realise. Most online feminine brands will have free samples they will send out in the post for free. Depends if these brands are available in your country, you could try searching the web for brands like:- stay-free, kotex, libra, carefree, homebrand, De Jour, tampex. You can do it in the privacy of your own home if you'd rather not walk into a supermarket and feel uncomfortable browsing the feminine hygene shelves. You might also find some useful info and samples here:- www.freesamplesblog.com/category/free-stuff/feminine-care/
Best of luck to you. :)
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Lets Insult Christmas Public WT Now Up on jw.org
by LostGeneration inmight need a vomit bag as your read through this one..... http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/.
one gem on page six where we have "helping the needy" as the headline - i wonder which "organization" they might be referring to?.
could you set aside, or budget, some money.
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I am a single parent and no longer a JW but my relatives still are. The way they try to pity my daughter for me not allowing her to go to meetings is apauling. Then to shut them up, I let her go to one, but I stayed in the car park for the whole meeting on principal. I refused to go in there. When it was over, my daughter told me her uncle yelled at her for talking and not 'paying attention'. She's a 3 year old child! Of course she's not going to care about what's going on, and she'll never be going back either. When they told me what had happened, I told them it was probably boring for her and then they snapped at me with such an aloof attitude that 'it was not boring' and turned their noses up at me. As if that kind of attitude will bring people back or encourage them to let their kids go in future? No thank you! It's all a crock. They are more than happy putting other people down and yet when their own beliefs come under fire, you're the world's worst person or being disobedient or for thinking freely.
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There Are Many New Ones Here. Has JWN Helped You?
by minimus ini think simon green's site has helped more people than he ever would have imagined!
do you agree??
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I think it's a great idea and place to come to chat with people who understand what you've been through. I don't feel like such a freak or an outcast anymore. There is life after being a JW and it's cool there are so many people who are willing to support you here. This site is proof you don't have to be a good person to be called a JW. There are great people who aren't JW's too. Thanks for including this Branded Rebel in your world.
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I hear you honey! It's really hard when JW life is all you've ever known. I agree with the online dating thing. It is a good place to start. Wishing you all the best of luck. I'm in your situation and still looking.